lowering compression with baseplate spacer?
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lowering compression with baseplate spacer?
22 May 2007 23:29
just wondering if im doing this right. i plugged in some values into a compression ratio caculator till i got what i believe to be correct values for my setup, then i added gasket thickness till i reached my desired compression ratio.
650/750 bored to 69mm(810cc wiseco pistons) 650 head (combustion chamber 23.7cc IIRC) 10.25:1 compression ratio pistons when used with a 750 head, and roughly 10.8:1 compression ratio with a 650 head. with a 2.25mm spacer it puts the compression ratio around 8:1 if i did this right.
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650/750 bored to 69mm(810cc wiseco pistons) 650 head (combustion chamber 23.7cc IIRC) 10.25:1 compression ratio pistons when used with a 750 head, and roughly 10.8:1 compression ratio with a 650 head. with a 2.25mm spacer it puts the compression ratio around 8:1 if i did this right.
opinions???
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Re: lowering compression with baseplate spacer?
23 May 2007 04:38
not that this is the best idea, but I have seen people put two gaskets on before and it worked, didnt leak
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Re: lowering compression with baseplate spacer?
23 May 2007 12:20
yes i was thinking of doubling up on base and head gaskets, but i wasnt sure if it would be enough(need to measure i guess). maybe a few base gaskets would be OK. i would feel safer with less areas to leak though. so a thick baseplate spacer would make me feel better than 7(guessing) base gaskets
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Re: lowering compression with baseplate spacer?
23 May 2007 12:59
did you do a cc on the head and on the piston, that is the only way to see exactly where you are
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Re: lowering compression with baseplate spacer?
23 May 2007 13:06
no, i was going by wiseco and manual specs
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Re: lowering compression with baseplate spacer?
23 May 2007 15:04
Your numbers sound about right, a 2mm base spacer is common. Don't forget to figure in adjustable cam sprockets if you go this route.
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Re: lowering compression with baseplate spacer?
23 May 2007 17:14
lorcan is right on, I forgot about the cam chain, dumb me, I have done some creative things on racing small blocks and cam chain issues have come up before.
if you stay in the path that you are going a degree wheel and dial indicator will be needed to put the cams back in time, good thing is you can move them around to gain some power
if you stay in the path that you are going a degree wheel and dial indicator will be needed to put the cams back in time, good thing is you can move them around to gain some power
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Re: lowering compression with baseplate spacer?
23 May 2007 18:02
thx guys. I wanted to stay away from degreeing cams, but i know i will have to if i go with a spacer. what a learning curve this is turning out to be! :woohoo:
I have read about degreeing cams, and it looks a little tricky, but im sure i could do it with the step by step instructions 
if a 2mm spacer is common, i wont worry about not having enough length in the cam chain:)
Lorc, where would i find a spacer? and would i use a gasket on both sides?
if a 2mm spacer is common, i wont worry about not having enough length in the cam chain:)
Lorc, where would i find a spacer? and would i use a gasket on both sides?
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